A new vehicle type like a van may help Tesla more than an affordable car
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Tesla is known for its luxurious, high-end electric vehicles with cutting-edge technology and impressive performance. However, the company may be planning a significant pivot to produce a more affordable car that would cater to a broader audience. This move would undoubtedly shake up the automotive industry, but one renowned industry expert thinks a cheap vehicle, while doable, is not the right move for Tesla.
Sandy Munro recently shared his insights on the future of electric vehicles, specifically Tesla, with Tesla Owners Silicon Valley. Munro sees a path that Tesla could achieve this less expensive car. According to Munro, it would need to use lithium iron phosphate (LFP) batteries, which are cheaper and still good enough for most of the population. Tesla currently only uses LFP batteries in a portion of their models today.
Sandy Munro Discussing Tesla
The Risk with Small, Cheap Cars
Munro says no one makes much money on small cars, especially in North America. Furthermore, Tesla would have to be more frugal in its approach to creating a more affordable vehicle. This approach means the company would have to consider what features are not essential. For example, Munro suggests that cheaper drum brakes could be used instead of disc brakes and that Bose stereo system might not be necessary for a more affordable car.
Munro says Tesla could get down to $24,000 to $28,000. But he cautions, "coming out with the cheap car, what does it really do for you? Not much, because people are still willing to put their hand in their pocket and pull out 40 grand and say I want that one. That is the risk with small cars." He also says small cars make a few hundred dollars per unit sold, considerably less than Tesla's current margins.
However, Musk must see some advantages in offering a more affordable car; he told the B20 conference in November, "Musk responded to the question familiarly, "I can't speak too much to the future of Tesla product development, except to say that we do think that making a much more affordable vehicle would make a lot of sense and we should do something."
A No-Risk Proposition with High-Profit Potential
Nevertheless, there is a significant gap in the market that Tesla could not only fill but dominate, "if I were Elon Musk, I'd be looking at making a minivan or something like that. He can still make a shitload of money and not take any risk. That is a no-risk proposition, making a minivan." Musk has floated the idea of a "highly configurable vehicle" in the past, and Munro sees a gaping hole. "When Dodge and Chrysler walked away from the minivan, there was no minivan out there. There is one, Kia Carnival and these guys can't keep them in the showroom."
Munro thinks it is the marketing people who killed the minivan, "everybody in marketing says, 'oh, we don't want to produce a car like that because it emasculates men and it gives women the image of being a soccer mom.' Guess what? There are a lot of guys out there who like that car because it was the biggest selling thing they had, and on top of that, there are a lot of soccer moms! So why not try and take advantage of that?"
A Tesla minivan would have all the amenities expected from the brand, but it could also sell the safety factor. Teslas are repeatedly awarded for their rigorous design and commitment to safety. Given that minivans are synonymous with transporting young families, it would be a perfect match.
Tesla recently showed off a demo of Optimus, its humanoid robot, walking around in moderately challenging terrain—not on a flat surface but on dirt and slopes. These things can be difficult for a humanoid robot, especially during the training cycle.
Most interestingly, Milan Kovac, VP of Engineering for Optimus, clarified what it takes to get Optimus to this stage. Let’s break down what he said.
Optimus is Blind
Optimus is getting seriously good at walking now - it can keep its balance over uneven ground - even while walking blind. Tesla is currently using just the sensors, all powered by a neural net running on the embedded computer.
Essentially, Tesla is building Optimus from the ground up, relying on as much additional data as possible while it trains vision. This is similar to how they train FSD on vehicles, using LiDAR rigs to validate the vision system’s accuracy. While Optimus doesn’t have LiDAR, it relies on all those other sensors on board, many of which will likely become simplified as vision takes over as the primary sensor.
Today, Optimus is walking blind, but it’s able to react almost instantly to changes in the terrain underneath it, even if it falls or slips.
What’s Next?
Next up, Tesla AI will be adding vision to Optimus - helping complete the neural net. Remember, Optimus runs on the same overall AI stack as FSD - in fact, Optimus uses an FSD computer and an offshoot of the FSD stack for vision-based tasks.
Milan mentions they’re planning on adding vision to help the robot plan ahead and improve its walking gait. While the zombie shuffle is iconic and a little bit amusing, getting humanoid robots to walk like humans is actually difficult.
There’s plenty more, too - including better responsiveness to velocity and direction commands and learning to fall and stand back up. Falling while protecting yourself to minimize damage is something natural to humans - but not exactly natural to something like a robot. Training it to do so is essential in keeping the robot, the environment around it, and the people it is interacting with safe.
We’re excited to see what’s coming with Optimus next because it is already getting started in some fashion in Tesla’s factories.
In a relatively surprising move, GM announced that it is realigning its autonomy strategy and prioritizing advanced driver assistance systems (ADAS) over fully autonomous vehicles.
GM is effectively closing Cruise (autonomous) and focusing on its Super Cruise (ADAS) feature. The engineering teams at Cruise will join the GM teams working on Super Cruise, effectively shuttering the fully autonomous vehicle business.
End of Cruise
GM cites that “an increasingly competitive robotaxi market” and “considerable time and resources” are required for scaling the business to a profitable level. Essentially - they’re unable to keep up with competitors at current funding and research levels, putting them further and further behind.
Cruise has been offering driverless rides in several cities, using HD mapping of cities alongside vehicles equipped with a dazzling array of over 40 sensors. That means that each cruise vehicle is essentially a massive investment and does not turn a profit while collecting data to work towards Autonomy.
Cruise has definitely been on the back burner for a while, and a quick glance at their website - since it's still up for now - shows the last time they officially released any sort of major news packet was back in 2019.
Competition is Killer
Their current direct competitor - Waymo, is funded by Google, which maintains a direct interest in ensuring they have a play in the AI and autonomy space.
Interestingly, this news comes just a month after Tesla’s We, Robot event, where they showed off the Cybercab and the Robotaxi network, as well as plans to begin deployment of the network and Unsupervised FSD sometime in 2025. Tesla is already in talks with some cities in California and Texas to launch Robotaxi in 2025.
GM Admits Tesla Has the Right Strategy
As part of the business call following the announcement, GM admitted that Tesla’s end-to-end and Vision-based approach towards autonomy is the right strategy. While they say Cruise started down that path, they’re putting aside their goals towards fully autonomous vehicles for now and focusing on introducing that tech in Super Cruise instead.
NEWS: GM just admitted that @Tesla’s end-to-end approach to autonomy is the right strategy.
“That’s where the industry is pivoting. Cruise had already started making headway down that path. We are moving to a foundation model and end-to-end approach going forward.” pic.twitter.com/ACs5SFKUc3
With GM now focusing on Super Cruise, they’ll put aside autonomy and instead focus solely on ADAS features to relieve driver stress and improve safety. While those are positive goals that will benefit all road users, full autonomy is really the key to removing the massive impact that vehicle accidents have on society today.
In addition, Super Cruise is extremely limited, cannot brake for traffic controls, and doesn’t work in adverse conditions - even rain. It can only function when lane markings are clear, there are no construction zones, and there is a functional web connection.
The final key to the picture is that the vehicle has to be on an HD-mapped and compatible highway - essentially locking Super Cruise to wherever GM has time to spend mapping, rather than being functional anywhere in a general sense, like FSD or Autopilot.
Others Impressed - Licensing FSD
Interestingly, some other manufacturers have also weighed into the demise of Cruise. BMW, in a now-deleted post, said that a demo of Tesla’s FSD is “very impressive.” There’s a distinct chance that BMW and other manufacturers are looking to see what Tesla does next.
BMW chimes in on a now-deleted post. The Internet is forever, BMW!
Not a Tesla App
It seems that FSD has caught their eyes after We, Robot - and that the demonstrations of FSD V13.2 online seem to be the pivot point. At the 2024 Shareholder Meeting earlier in the year, Elon shared the fact that several manufacturers had reached out, looking to understand what was required to license FSD from Tesla.
There is a good chance 2025 will be the year we’ll see announcements of the adoption of FSD by legacy manufacturers - similar to how we saw the surprise announcements of the adoption of the NACS charging standard.