Tesla reveals FSD Beta numbers, says it will get 50% higher frame rate

By Lennon Cihak
Tesla now has more than 100,000 FSD Beta testers
Tesla now has more than 100,000 FSD Beta testers
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Tesla just finished their Q2 earnings call, and CEO Elon Musk mentioned that the price of FSD Beta might be going up (again) by the end of this year.

Improved Framerate

FSD Beta has arguably gotten better over the years as Tesla has trained its neural nets and deprecated old ones. Musk stated that they will continue deleting older neural nets to improve the frame rate, which is currently 24fps. Removing the older neural nets will allegedly increase the frame rate up to 36fps.

This should allow for smoother interactions, especially when driving faster. Right now if you're driving 60 MPH, you're moving at a rate of 88 feet per second. If the car is interpreting 24fps, then it's analyzing its environment about every 3.6 feet.

Increasing the framerate to 36fps would lower this to about 2.4 feet, resulting in the vehicle having smoother reactions to its environment.

Musk explains this at the 27-minute mark in the Q2 earnings call.

FSD Beta Price Increase?

Musk has said that as it enhances its software feature set the price will continue to rise. They upped the price to $12,000 of FSD Beta earlier this year, up from $10,000, months before adding additional testers.

It’s difficult for some EV consumers to justify $12,000+ for non-physical features, which is why Tesla offers a subscription program for FSD. Musk didn’t clarify during the earnings call if the price of the subscription program would increase as well, but he did say that FSD is “currently ridiculously cheap.”

“The value of FSD is extremely high and not well understood by most people,” said Musk during the call. “It is basically currently ridiculously cheap, assuming FSD materializes, which it will.”

If Musk thinks FSD’s current price tag of $12,000 is ridiculously cheap, we can assume that FSD will most likely become quite more expensive over the next 5-10 years, especially as Tesla continues to collect more data from its fleet and add new features.

The EV automaker plans to push FSD Beta to all owners who purchased or subscribe in North America by the end of this year.

Many owners have requested that Tesla allow for the transfer of FSD and Autopilot purchases to future vehicles they purchase. All vehicles are delivered with the FSD hardware, and Tesla simply software locks them, which allows owners to buy FSD at any point after purchase.

This becomes more pressing for owners who are upgrading their vehicles.

FSD Beta Stats

Tesla also revealed how many FSD Beta testers they currently have. According to their 2022 Q2 earnings report, Tesla now has more than 100,000 drivers using FSD Beta across North America.

FSD Beta has now been driven for 35 million miles
FSD Beta has now been driven for 35 million miles

In the investors' report, Tesla also showed that there have now been more than 35 million miles driven with FSD Beta, more than any other automaker.

Tesla is expected to release FSD Beta 10.13 this week with many improvements.

Earnings Call

You can listen to the entire earnings call below, or read our recap of the event.

Tesla Vehicles Spotted With LiDAR: What Do They Use It For?

By Karan Singh
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Tesla recently hit the news for purchasing approximately $2M in LiDAR sensors from Luminar, one of Tesla’s long-term suppliers. You’ve probably seen photos of Tesla’s Semi and various Tesla models, including the Model 3 and Model Y sporting LIDAR equipment on the roof. These cars drive around with manufacturer plates scanning streets and highways.

However, many people confuse Tesla’s purpose in purchasing LiDAR equipment with using it for FSD versus testing. So, let’s look at what LiDAR is, and why Tesla uses it on its Fleet Validation Vehicles.

What is LiDAR?

LiDAR stands for Light Detecting and Ranging – essentially using lasers to measure distances. A laser pulse is sent out, and the time it takes to return is measured – providing extremely accurate distance measurements.

Some companies working on self-driving vehicles, including Waymo and BYD, use LiDAR as part of their self-driving suites, but Tesla is one of the few stand-outs that does not. Even Rimac’s “Verne” Robotaxi – which uses self-driving technology from Mobileye, also uses LiDAR.

While LiDAR can produce extremely accurate and high-quality 3D environments, it comes with its downsides as well. Not only is LiDAR costly and requires large gear strapped to a vehicle, but it also can not be used in bad weather and can have interference issues if there are other strong light sources present.

Why Does Tesla Use LiDAR?

A LiDAR rig mounted on a Tesla Semi for testing FSD.
A LiDAR rig mounted on a Tesla Semi for testing FSD.
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At Autonomy Day in 2019, Elon Musk mentioned that LiDAR isn’t the solution for self-driving cars – it's just a crutch. Thus, Tesla hasn’t used LiDAR for any production self-driving software.

Instead, Tesla uses it exactly how it's described – they use it to gather ground-truth data. This data is then used to feed Tesla’s Full Self Driving system – which helps validate its vision-only system's accuracy. LiDAR provides very accurate measurements to help ensure that FSD’s perception of space is accurate – and is only used by Tesla to ensure that its AI technology which is the brains of FSD is capable of accurately interpreting depth from just visual data.

Tesla’s vision-only system has been seen to be extremely accurate, with Vision-only Autopark being able to park in even narrower and tighter spaces faster than the previous version that relied on ultrasonic sensors.

We’ll likely continue to see Tesla purchase LiDAR systems, as well as use them for validation well into the future.

Tesla's Upcoming Robotaxi Event in August Delayed, According to Bloomberg

By Karan Singh
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In a report from Bloomberg, it is claimed that Tesla will be delaying its much-anticipated 8/8 Robotaxi event by two months to October 2024.

While sources other than Bloomberg haven't confirmed this report, Bloomberg has a positive track record of reporting on financial decisions. We’ll be sure to update the article if there is confirmation on X from Elon Musk or another Tesla senior official.

Tesla’s stock has dropped nearly 8.5% over the day, ending back-to-back gains over the last two weeks. It closed yesterday at $ 241 after hitting a peak of $270 earlier in the day before the news broke.

Why the Delay?

The delay – of approximately two months – has been communicated internally, but not publicly announced just yet. Bloomberg goes on to mention that the design team was told to rework certain elements of the Cybercab, necessitating the delay.

If Bloomberg’s report is correct, it sounds like Tesla’s unveil event will be largely focused on showing off the vehicle, instead of demoing how it will work. Of course, it could still be both, but given past events, Tesla has always shown off the vehicle years before it hits production.

Rimac recently showed off their version of robotaxi vehicle named Verne, and surprisingly, it could almost pass for Tesla’s own robotaxi. A lot of design cues in Rimac’s version are elements we have already seen or expect to see in Tesla’s autonomous taxi.

A recent Tesla patent revealed that Tesla is incorporating a sanitation system into their robotaxi that will be responsible for analyzing and cleaning the vehicle’s interior, although the delay itself is likely tied more to a physical feature rather than software.

Another element we know almost nothing about is how Tesla plans to charge these robotic taxis. Will they rely on the existing charge port and adapt a solution like the robotic charging arm (video below) we saw almost eight years ago, or will wireless charging or a dock finally become realized?

While the delay for Tesla’s event appears to be related to the vehicle’s design itself and not further development of FSD, Tesla is wasting no time in getting FSD working for the upcoming vehicle. Model 3 vehicles have already been spotted with camera locations that resemble a robotaxi.

Is the Delay Accurate?

We expect that this delay might actually be true – Elon Musk usually takes to X within hours of such news breaking if it's false to refute it and hasn’t done so yet.

Tesla has delayed several of their events in the past, and a delay of a couple of months seems plausible. We should hear from Musk himself soon on whether this report is accurate.

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