Over the weekend, Elon Musk commented on a post about electric buses in Norway – and confirmed that Tesla doesn’t intend to build electric buses.
Let’s examine the context of the comment and then see what we know about Tesla’s future plans.
Norwegian Electric Buses
Norway launched a set of electric buses last year, which struggled to perform their routes in the cold winters. As many know, EVs tend to lose range at colder temperatures as some energy is used to keep the battery warm. Some of this energy use can be offset by preconditioning the battery and the cabin and using bigger batteries in colder regions.
These Norwegian buses, the Urbino series built by Solaris, have batteries that are too small to operate on the routes planned by Norway’s transport services in the winter. Heating the massive cabins takes too much energy, which isn’t too big of a surprise.
What’s most interesting is that these Solaris buses are heated with a heat pump—which is still hyper-efficient. Sadly, the battery is just too small, and Norway’s transport services didn’t account for the loss in efficiency in the winter months. Depending on ambient temperatures and the exact route, that could be anywhere from a 5% to a 30% reduction in range.
Instead, Norway intends to install mini diesel generators to power the cabin heating – thereby making these buses into hybrids rather than pure EVs. This is an interesting move – especially as Norway is a leader in the EV transition, with a 92% pure EV market share for new vehicles.
Tesla and Electric Buses
Elon’s confirmation that EV buses aren’t needed comes on the heels of some other super-important statements. He confirms that Teslas – in particular – can handle operating well even above the Arctic Circle. This is especially true after the Cybertruck Arctic Expedition where two Cybertrucks traveled all the way to the Arctic Ocean.
What’s key here is that Elon is implying that when Tesla rolls out Unsupervised FSD, there won’t be a need for buses. Instead, people needing a transportation option in urban areas can look forward to using a Robotaxi to get around in warmth. He has previously mentioned that we can expect the price of a Robotaxi fare to rival the cost of a bus ticket.
While traditional taxis are less efficient pound-for-pound in transporting people and reducing traffic, Robotaxis on the other hand have the option to reduce traffic by intelligently speaking to the fleet, analyzing traffic patterns, and autonomously adjusting their routes to best fit the destination.
Tesla also didn’t have anything nearly bus-shaped in their investor decks, so this seems to be in-line with their long-term goals. We can likely expect a commercial van though, so there’s plenty to look forward to.
All in all, Tesla won’t need an EV bus – instead, they’ll just produce a few more Robotaxis to make sure one is available to pick up passengers. Speaking of Robotaxi – the event is coming up very soon! We just saw a camouflaged prototype, and sign-ups for the Robotaxi Event draw just ended.
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Did you miss Tesla’s biggest event since its inception? No worries, we have you covered.
We’ve got a straightforward and easy-to-digest recap below, split and organized by sections. Of course, we’ll dive into some of the bigger subjects in detail over the upcoming days, so stay tuned!
Event Info
Tesla’s We, Robot event was centered on the future of autonomy
5 “neighbourhoods” were created
Westworld offered Texas BBQ and the stage for the event
Metropolis had arcade games, and the ability to take a swing at Cybertruck
TSLA Theater had pizza and desserts, as well as a movie on a gigantic screen
New York brought a block party with live music and street performers, as well as street snacks
Finally, the last area was Merch – which, surprise – offered Tesla Merch, including gear, apparel, posters, and more
Elon Musk arrived in style in a Robotaxi to kick off the event
Master Plan Part 4 Reference Poster
Jowua on X
General/Master Plan Part 4
The event made multiple references to Master Plan Part 4, but we haven’t seen the official document yet
Today’s transportation infrastructure is too expensive, not safe, and not sustainable
10 hours a week of use of consumer vehicles out of 168 hours a week
Unsupervised Full Self Driving – Fall asleep and wake up at your destination
Increased free time for humans
Goal is to remove parking lots, as less will be needed in the future of autonomous vehicles
Create green space in the cities we live in
AI Poster
Jowua on X
Robotaxi/Cybercab
Not a Tesla App
The Cybercab has 2 doors, 2 seats, and is a 4-wheeler, as expected
It has a front and rear lightbar, similar to Cybertruck
Painted aluminum (not stainless steel)
No rear or top glass
No steering wheel or pedals
Butterfly doors
Large center screen
Has large, hatch-like trunk
20 vehicles produced and ready at the event, with 30 additional Model Ys
Autonomous vehicles will be 10x safer than humans
Low cost for autonomous transit; $1/mi for buses, Cybercab around $0.2/mi ($0.4 after taxes and fees)
Will be available for purchase
Will cost below $30,000 USD
One person will be able to take care of a small fleet easily
Cybercab production begins before 2027
Comes with inductive charging
Tesla Social Media mentioned Fleet Management software
Tesla showed off an automated cleaning system in the video, vacuuming the vehicle, wiping the seats and screens
CyberCab will still be Vision-only, no need for radar or LiDAR
Call it once, and its available for you all day, for either quick trips or long trips
Elon Musk Poster
Sawyer Merrit on X
RoboVan
Tesla showed off a fully autonomous RoboVan with no front window
Up to 20 people or can be set up for goods transport
RoboVan has a Cyber aesthetic as well
Large glass sliding doors
Tesla seems to be going all-in on this aesthetic for its future vehicles
RoboVan can be adapted to school bus or RV use
RoboVan can also be adapted for personal use – this suggests it could be outfitted with a steering wheel and pedals
The CyberVan arriving
Not a Tesla App
AI and Hardware
Unsupervised FSD in Texas and California in 2025, with Model 3 and Model Y
Unsupervised FSD for S, X, and CT in the future
AI has lived “a million lives” so it’s been trained on numerous odd situations
Always pays attention and is always fully aware of its surroundings
10-30x safer than humans
Focus on Tesla Vision – full autonomy, unsupervised for S, 3, X, Y, and CT
Cybercab will have AI5, will have oversized compute compared to what’s required according to Musk
Distributed inference compute brought up again
No news on inductive charging for other vehicles
The Optimus Poster
Jowua on X
Optimus
Optimus was brought out on stage again, walked with remote human assistance
Attendees were allowed to interact with Optimus robots
Optimus robots served drinks at the bar
Expected to cost $20K-$30K USD
Will eventually be an autonomous robotic assistant that can help with household tasks
It can also be a humanoid friend, teacher, babysitter, etc.
Elon mentioned the risks of AI Super Intelligence, and having to address it
At the event, people could talk and interact with the Optimus units on the ground. Optimus movements were remotely assisted by humans. The robots voices also appear to have be humans that were in a remote location.
Guests were not allowed to touch the Optimus units in the crowd
Tesla’s Robotaxi event is coming up later today, and there’s lots of hype. It’s absolutely going to be a must-see event, so we’ve outlined how you can watch it tonight.
If you weren’t one of the lucky lottery winners who managed to snag a ticket, there are a few ways to watch the Robotaxi event.
When
Tesla says the event will start at 10 PM EST or 7 PM PST. However, expect it to start fashionably late as usual. The agenda Tesla has provided is below.
Watch Live
The event is expected to be available on X, YouTube, and Tesla’s website. The links for X and YouTube are below. We’ll update this as the day goes along and Tesla adds additional sources.
This is the agenda Tesla has provided. All times are PST.
3:00 PM: Parking Lot Opens
5:00 PM: Doors Open
5:30 PM: Check-In Begins
7:00 PM: Remarks
Watch in Tesla Showrooms
Tesla is also running events at its local showrooms worldwide. Many of these pop-up events have been organized by the Tesla showrooms or in conjunction with local Tesla Owner’s Club groups.
You can go to Tesla’s Events Page here and see if there are any showrooms open in your region. These events are in-person, and a good way to hang out with local Tesla fans and owners to watch one of the biggest events in Tesla’s history. If you don’t see an event listed, try calling your local Tesla showroom or contacting your local Owner’s Club. Other events may be running locally that you could attend.