Everything Tesla Announced During Its Earnings Call - Robotaxi Details, HW3 Support, FSD and More

By Karan Singh
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Did you miss Tesla’s Q3 2024 Earnings Call, or just want to review everything Tesla announced? Either way, we’ve got an outline of everything Tesla announced during the call.

This call was strongly focused on autonomy and revealed a lot more details about Tesla’s plans for its ride sharing service and the Cybercab.

Below is a section-by-section outline of both the actual earnings call and Q&A session and the investor slide deck.

Autonomy and FSD

  • Tesla is still focusing hard on autonomy

  • There were 50 autonomous vehicles at the We, Robot event

    • Carried thousands of people with no incidents or issues

    • 20 were Cybercabs and 30 were regular Model Ys

  • Cybercab will reach volume production by 2026

    • Expected to reach 2 million units per year for initial capacity

    • Tesla could see expanding it to 4 million units per year

  • There have been significant improvements in FSD year-to-date

    • FSD launched in the Cybertruck, FSD V12.5 launched most recently

    • Actually Smart Summon is a taste of Unsupervised FSD

    • Single Stack for Highway and City, all end-to-end, all neural nets coming soon in V13

    • 100x improvement in miles per intervention between FSD v11.4.9 and FSD v12.5

    • Tesla expects a 5-6x improvement in miles per intervention between FSD v12.5 and FSD v13

    • By Q2 next year Tesla expects FSD to have higher miles per critical intervention than the average human’s miles per collision

      • This is the “safer than a human” mark Tesla is aiming for

    • Hardware 4 has made significant strides in helping progress FSD due to the available processing power

  • Tesla will continue to roll out more 30-day trials with every significant FSD improvement

    • FSD has seen an increased take-rate after We, Robot

Internal Testing for Robotaxi

  • Tesla employees in the California Bay Area have already been testing Tesla’s Robotaxi service, which is run with Model Y’s

    • These vehicles have a safety driver

    • Tesla is also testing the Robotaxi / ridesharing app internally

Ride Hailing

  • Ride Hailing/Robotaxi network’s initial rollout will begin in Texas and maybe California next year

    • California’s regulatory approvals will be challenging, and Texas may happen sooner.

    • California may be delayed to 2026

    • Other states that follow Texas could come sooner

  • Driverless Teslas will be offering paid rides sometime next year

  • Some recently released features were designed for the Robotaxi, but went to every Tesla

    • Robotaxis will automatically load and adopt your Tesla profile, logging you into media apps, adjusting the vehicle’s climate and seat settings for comfort

    • Navigation can be done with the phone app, and you can also track progress of Robotaxis on-route

  • Cybercab, Models S3XY, already meet federal vehicle regulations for autonomy

  • State vehicle regulations are all over the place, each state has different (or no) process for autonomy

Hardware 3

  • “Vast Majority” of Tesla’s vehicles on the road today will be capable of autonomy

  • Tesla will continue to iterate FSD on HW4 first, and then backport to HW3

  • HW3 does not “fundamentally support” kernel features, and Tesla has to use tricks and additional work to get it to function

  • Elon admits he is not 100% sure HW3 will be capable of autonomy

  • If HW3 cannot do the job, Tesla will upgrade HW3 computers for owners who have purchased FSD.

    • Tesla has previously said multiple times this was not possible, this is big news

    • Upgrade will only cover the inference computers, not cameras or other parts

Affordable Model - 25K

  • Tesla’s more affordable model is still on track for the first half of 2025.

  • It will be built on the same next-gen platform as Cybercab, with an estimated 5.5mi/kWh.

    • This will be Tesla’s most efficient powertrain.

  • Tesla will continue to innovate to reduce the cost of its current lineup (S, 3, X, Y, CT).

    • CT is now profit neutral/approaching profitability

Semi

  • Semi factory is well under construction, CapEx for the factory is complete

  • Pilot builds of the updated Semi begin next year

  • Production ramp begins in 2026

  • Lots of signaled demand from trucking companies

    • Tesla is not expecting a demand issue

  • Cost per mile per ton is far lower than diesel trucks

    • Companies that don’t adopt Semi won’t be able to keep up

  • Pepsi’s drivers don’t want to go back to their old vehicles, fight to stay on Tesla’s Semis

  • “Couple hundred” already deployed this year

    • Tesla is training the Semi fleet on FSD, will deploy FSD to the Semi when its ready.

Roadster

  • Roadster is the “cherry on the icing on the cake”

  • Not a priority for the Tesla mission

  • Will come after other items that have a bigger impact on the mission (25K Model, etc.,)

  • Design is close to finalization

Service

  • Tesla is trying to fix issues upstream - at the factory level - to reduce service wait times

  • Tesla is looking to establish dedicated service facilities where they have dedicated lanes and technicians for certain specific issues

  • Throughput of service matters

  • Tesla, unlike other auto manufacturers, services cars

    • Normally, car dealers, not manufacturers make money on service

    • Tesla does not make money on service

    • Tesla has an incentive to reduce servicing costs as much as possible

  • Tesla is working on automating vehicle diagnostics and prep work

    • Vehicle self-diagnoses, information is provided to Tesla

    • Parts arrive, lift is booked and tools prepared

    • Vehicle arrives, technician is fully aware of the issue and can immediately fix the problem without wasting time

    • Already, most of the time Tesla doesn’t need to diagnose the issue, the car diagnoses itself and reports potential problems to Service.

4680 Cell

  • Tesla has produced the 100 millionth 4680 cell in Q3 2024.

  • Rapidly becoming the most competitive cell in terms of price

    • Tesla’s internally produced 4680 will be the most cost-competitive cell in North America

  • Continued progress on the dry-cathode line and expanding past the initial test batch

  • Tesla will continue to rely upon external cell providers

    • Lots of capacity is needed for both vehicles and stationary storage that can’t be achieved internally

AI and Optimus

  • AI training capacity is still expanding

  • Tesla is not compute constrained right now, especially with Cortex coming online

    • FSD is getting good enough that it is hard to find and figure out issues

    • Can see 10,000 miles of FSD video and not find an issue in current builds

  • Tesla is testing both virtually and physically

    • Real-life physical testing offers additional benefits, interacting with real humans, etc.,

  • Optimus’ new hand has 22 DoF, and is extremely humanlike

    • Tesla is likely the only company that can scale humanoid robots

    • This is likely due to Tesla’s extreme vertical integration, including batteries, actuators, sensors, software, and inference

    • FSD provides the humanlike brain, while Tesla’s factories can provide volume production capabilities

  • Grok in Tesla / Infotainment

    • Tesla will keep expanding what’s available for infotainment, will include AI support

    • Will also include browser improvements, movies, games, productivity

Energy

  • Energy is still doing well, lots of space to continuing scaling this business sector

  • Megafactory Lathrop is doing 200 Megapacks a week, for 40GWh a year

  • Shanghai will begin doing 20GWh per year, starting Q1 2025

  • Tesla wants to ship at least 100GWh per year by the end of 2025

  • Tesla wants to meet the stationary energy demands for a sustainable energy future

    • This includes the delivery of multiple terawatt hours per year

  • No material limitations on stationary battery business expansion

    • No rare materials or complex procedures are involved in the production process

Financial & Deliveries

  • Tesla has pushed out record deliveries this quarter.

  • No other EV company or EV section of another automaker is profitable

  • Tesla’s future is the world’s future - autonomous and fully electric

  • As Tesla executes on its objectives, Tesla will become the most valuable company in the world.

  • Tesla has done an excellent job executing in a difficult fiscal and regulatory environment so far

  • As cyclic fiscal and standing regulatory challenges are overcome, Tesla can continue to expand and grow in value

  • Automotive revenue grew Quarter over Quarter

    • Financial incentives have hurt direct profit numbers, but increased overall sales considerably

    • Tesla will continue to offer compelling financing options, but sparingly

    • Tesla has a compelling overall package - safety, autonomy, features, total cost of ownership

    • Tesla acknowledges there is an awareness gap about these items with new and old buyers alike

  • Tesla has had their vehicle margins grow Quarter over Quarter due to optimizations

  • Tesla continues to squeeze costs without compromising on the customer experience

  • Tesla has benefitted from lower freight and duties by delivering vehicles locally in markets where possible

    • North American vehicles from North America, European vehicles from Giga Berlin, Asian vehicles from China

  • Decline in interest rates as economy steadies will have a drastic impact on automotive demand

    • Due to interest rates, people have been holding onto cars longer, especially in North America

    • This has impacted new vehicle sales, as people are hesitant to spend money

    • Tesla sees an opportunity to educate and find new buyers in this market sector

  • Energy saw a decline in Q3, due to cyclic conditions

    • Projects are long term, and many begin in Q3, while ending in other quarters

    • Q4 will show growth for Energy

    • Q3 has been Tesla’s off-quarter for Energy (2021, 2022, 2023)

  • Tesla’s Q2 restructuring continuing to impact the company, will have no more impacts after Q4

  • GPU deployments continue, and Tesla will continue making quarterly investments, but sparingly

    • As it stands, Tesla has more GPU capacity than they can work with now - not compute constrained

  • Fragmented regulatory landscape will cause issues for the rollout of the Robotaxi Network and Unsupervised FSD

  • Most automotive companies have not internalized autonomy or EVs, and Tesla is a leader in both sectors

If you’d like to listen to the earnings call, it’s available below.

Plus, Tesla put out a highlight list of some of their biggest achievements for this quarter here on X.

https://x.com/Tesla/status/1849180540408041859

Lars & Elon Discuss the Future of Tesla: Roadster, Cybercab, Robotaxi, Optimus and More

By Karan Singh
Not a Tesla App

At the recent X Takeover event this past weekend, two of Tesla’s most important leaders gave in-depth interviews that provided a unique view into Tesla’s path forward and how everything comes together internally.

An interview with Elon Musk laid out the grand vision for Tesla and his other companies, focusing on the ambitious “what and why.” Later, Head of Vehicle Engineering Lars Moravy provided the more grounded, engineering-focused “how,” detailing the immense work it takes to turn the vision into a reality.

What emerged from these conversations was a clearer picture of Tesla’s strategy: a relentless, long-term vision for the future of transportation, AI, robotics, and energy, supported by a world-class engineering team capable of developing the processes to turn these products into a reality.

Robotaxi & Cybercab

For years, the concept of Unsupervised FSD, as well as Robotaxis, has been the focal point of Tesla’s future. In his interview, Elon provided fresh details on the way they expect the business model to work. Tesla plans to operate a fleet where some vehicles are company-owned, while others are owned by customers. This is essentially a combination of Uber and Airbnb, taking a bit of a hybrid approach between the two different styles. 

He also went on to confirm that the purpose-built, two-seater Cybercab would complement, but not replace, Tesla’s existing models. This is key, because many have thought that Tesla would end their consumer vehicle sales or drastically reduce them as they transitioned to an AI services company, and became less of a car company. Now, it seems we know that they’ll have a lasting stake in personal car ownership.

The Cybercab, which is a revolutionary vehicle without driver controls, requires an equally revolutionary process to build it. In his interview, Lars Moravy provided the answer and detailed the unboxed manufacturing process that Tesla has been developing.

The unboxed method challenges a century of established automotive assembly by breaking the vehicle down into smaller, parallel sub-assemblies, allowing more work to be done simultaneously. The goal is to drastically shorten the main assembly line, enabling vehicle sections to be built in parallel and come together at the end.

Lars also noted that Tesla has already done the initial batch of crash testing for the Cybercab prototypes, and the vehicle has passed with flying colors. This isn’t surprising for Tesla, which integrates vehicle safety right into the structure of the vehicle, building castings that transfer force away from occupants.

The Semi

While Elon’s interview focused on some of his grander ambitions like Mars colonization, Lars provided some tangible updates on two of Tesla’s most anticipated vehicles.

On the Tesla Semi, Lars confirmed that progress is well underway at the Semi factory in Reno, Nevada. After years of focusing on engineering prototypes to ensure the reliability of a commercial workhorse vehicle, Tesla is now expected to ramp up production by the end of 2025, continuing through into early 2026. The business case for the Semi is crystal clear - build a no-brainer choice for shipping and logistics companies, who need to weigh the initial buy-in and infrastructure costs against operating costs per mile.

The Semi, just like other EVs, absolutely trumps diesel trucks in cost per mile, due to lower energy costs and less maintenance. However, the somewhat hidden advantage here is that truck drivers drastically prefer to drive the Tesla Semi over other diesel trucks, citing things such as better visibility, a smoother ride, and easier driving. These are advantages that could lead to improved employee retention and easier driver recruitment.

Meanwhile, the Semi simply needs to have infrastructure installed at the starting and ending locations for major delivery companies, enabling end-to-end supply chain handover.

The Roadster

Lars also talked about Tesla’s upcoming Roadster, confirming that it’s still in development, with the team preparing for a mind-blowing demo sometime soon. Elon previously hinted at this demo during a visit to the Tesla Design Studio, where he said a mind-blowing demo would be coming by the end of the year.

The goal for Tesla is to make it the last, best driver’s car before the world begins transitioning to full autonomy. Lars also touched on one of the biggest challenges with the Roadster. There is an immense engineering challenge being taken on now - and it's the SpaceX package. This package is set to use cold-gas thrusters to push the Roadster past what is conventionally possible. In fact, just as Elon has previously mentioned, the Roaster may be able to “fly a little.”

Last, best driver’s car

  • Lars Moravy

You can watch the full interview below. Lar’s portion on the Roadster starts at 26:30.

Optimus: Sustainable Abundance

One of the most ambitious parts of Elon’s vision is the Optimus humanoid robot. He has stated his belief many times that the robotics business could be many times more valuable than Tesla’s entire automotive business, and if it works as planned, it definitely will be.

The current Optimus V3 design is intended for volume production, with Elon foreseeing a future market of billions of humanoid robots - not made just by Tesla, but the market as a whole. That many units could simply eliminate human poverty and usher in an age of sustainable abundance.

That grand vision is built on top of the manufacturing and automation expertise that Lars’ team is pioneering every day. With volume production of Optimus to begin next year, and real work already being done in Tesla’s factories, we may see humanoid robots making a real impact on the lifestyle and livelihood of people within the next few years.

The Unfair Advantage: Getting Sh*t Done

All of these ambitious ideas and products are enabled what what is perhaps Tesla’s true sauce - its unique internal culture of getting sh*t done. Lars’ interview provided us with a rare look inside to see just how it all comes together.

He described working with Elon as unique - the discussions are grounded in physics, and Elon trusts his teams to turn his dreams and ambitions into reality. This, in turn, creates a culture of mutual respect and high expectations. 

The collaborative spirit extends to the relationship between engineering and design, which Lars described as highly unusual for the auto industry. Rather than the two teams being hostile to each other, they work together to make bold design and engineering choices, like the Cybertruck, into reality.

Underpinning all of this is what Lars himself calls Tesla’s superpower: in-house automation and manufacturing engineering teams. These teams work to design the machine that builds the machines - innovating and solving problems at a level and speed that is simply not possible when relying on external vendors.

This combination of a relentless long-term vision, alongside a first-principles engineering culture, allows Tesla to take big risks and make big plays that define its future path. While all of Tesla’s timelines are ambitious, these interviews make it clear that the ambitious vision is paired with a concrete and innovative plan for execution.

Tesla Plans Massive 10x Robotaxi Expansion: A Look at the Potential New Area

By Karan Singh
The map above compares Tesla's current geofence with their potential expansion in yellow.
The map above compares Tesla's current geofence with their potential expansion in yellow.
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With Tesla’s first major expansion of the Robotaxi Geofence now complete and operational, they’ve been hard at work with validation in new locations - and some are quite the drive from the current Austin Geofence.

Validation fleet vehicles have been spotted operating in a wider perimeter around the city, from rural roads in the west end to the more complex area closer to the airport. Tesla mentioned during their earnings call that the Robotaxi has already completed 7,000 miles in Austin, and it will expand its area of operation to roughly 10 times what it is now. This lines up with the validation vehicles we’ve been tracking around Austin.

Based on the spread of the new sightings, the potential next geofence could cover a staggering 450 square miles - a tenfold increase from the current service area of roughly 42 square miles.

If Tesla decides to expand into these new areas, it would represent a tenfold increase over their current geofence, matching Tesla’s statement. The new area would cover approximately 10% of the 4,500-square-mile Austin metropolitan area. If Tesla can offer Robotaxi services in that entire area, it would prove they can tackle just about any city in the United States.

In the map below, the blue icons are sightings of Tesla validation vehicles, while the yellow map area represents their potential expansion. The map overlays Tesla’s phases 1 and 2 and compares them to Waymo’s first two phases. You can toggle each one by tapping the icon at the top left and choosing which geofences you’d like to view.

From Urban Core to Rural Roads

The locations of the validation vehicles show a clear intent to move beyond the initial urban and suburban core and prepare the Robotaxi service for a much wider range of uses.

In the west, validation fleet vehicles have been spotted as far as Marble Falls - a much more rural environment that features different road types, higher speed limits, and potentially different challenges. 

In the south, Tesla has been expanding towards Kyle, which is part of the growing Austin-San Antonio suburban corridor spanning Highway 35. San Antonio is only 80 miles (roughly a 90-minute drive) away, and could easily become part of the existing Robotaxi area if Tesla obtains regulatory approval there.

In the East, we haven’t spotted any new validation vehicles. This is likely because Tesla’s validation vehicles originate from Giga Texas, which is located East of Austin. We won’t really know if Tesla is expanding in this direction until they start pushing past Giga Texas and toward Houston.

Finally, there have been some validation vehicles spotted just North of the new expanded boundaries, meaning that Tesla isn’t done in that direction either. This direction consists of the largest suburban areas of Austin, which have so far not been serviced by any form of autonomous vehicle.

Rapid Scaling

This new, widespread validation effort confirms what we already know. Tesla is pushing for an intensive period of public data gathering and system testing in a new area, right before conducting geofence expansions. The sheer scale of this new validation zone tells us that Tesla isn’t taking this slowly - the next step is going to be a great leap instead, and they essentially confirmed this during this Q&A session on the recent call. The goal is clearly to bring the entire Austin Metropolitan area into the Robotaxi Network.

While the previous expansion showed off just how Tesla can scale the network, this new phase of validation testing is a demonstration of just how fast they can validate and expand their network. The move to validate across rural, suburban, and urban areas simultaneously shows their confidence in these new Robotaxi FSD builds.

Eventually, all these improvements from Robotaxi will make their way to customer FSD builds sometime in Q3 2025, so there is a lot to look forward to.

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