A detailed look at Tesla's FSD Beta using 10.10.2

By Nakatomi2010

On February 22nd, 2022, I took my 2017 Model X 100D, which has Autopilot 2.5 cameras, for an extended test drive on FSD Beta 10.10.2. The path being driven was:

FSD Beta 10.10.2

Using A Better Route Planner I plotted the following destinations for the vehicle to navigate in the City of Plant City:

FSD Beta 10.10.2

Plant City, so named after Henry B. Plant, who brought railroads to Florida, is a historical town with a mix of modern and historic roads, as well as being rife with railway crossings. The decision to have FSD Beta navigate from school to school was a blend of these being routes that would be common for a self-driving vehicle, as well as the destinations being spaced out enough to demonstrate the vehicle navigating from point to point, while also avoiding repeatedly hitting common highway roads.

As a preface to the write-up, understand that the trip was originally plotting using Tesla’s waypoints, however, my intention was to simply do “drive bys” of the destinations, not enter them. The Waypoints wanted to enter the destinations, which being that they were schools, was not something I wanted to do after hours, or ever. After noticing this when reaching the first destination I canceled the navigation and then manually selected each destination, aborting them as needed when I got close and selecting the next destination, while FSD Beta is engaged, and required to replot the trip.

In the recordings you’ll notice I don’t hit the snapshot buttons, that’s entirely on me. I was focused on recording and simply forgot to do my part by hitting the button. Normally I’m all over the button, I was just focused on the video.

The drive was also done close to the end of rush hour so that I would not have to sit in traffic.

The drive starts with the vehicle heading north on James L Redman Parkway. The drive is largely uneventful until it is required to turn right, heading east on to Reynolds St. Reynolds St is two one-way lanes heading east. A semi-truck ahead of us was making a wide turn appeared to confuse the Model X, causing it to enter the opposing traffic lane to attempt to make the right turn, a diagram of this playing out is below, the red line indicates the path the vehicle should have taken, while the yellow line indicates what it tried to do.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

Upon completing the right turn the semi-truck was on top of the center line, which again, appeared to confuse FSD Beta as it was unable to pick a lane, requiring me to disengage and get it into a lane.

You can see the behavior here: here.

While traveling east on Reynolds St the Model X then had to make a left turn, heading north, on North Michigan Avenue. This turn was taken reasonably well. You can see that here.

The vehicle then had to cross Baker St, which is two one-way lanes heading west. The Model X, as shown in the diagram below, took a substantial time to cross the intersection. It crawled its way into the middle of the two-lane road, then accelerated out of it. The yellow line indicates when the vehicle determined it was clear to cross.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

You can also see that here.

This theme repeats any time I must cross Reynolds or Baker St. Seems like an issue with handling one-way two-lane roads.

Upon arriving at Andrew Jackson Elementary school, I realized the Tesla Waypoint system wasn’t going to work in my favor, so I disengaged FSD Beta, drove past the school entrance, and plotted for the next destination.

The left turn from North Michigan Avenue to East Calhoun St went well, with no issues, you can see that here.

As noted earlier, Plant City is rife with railroad crossings, and the FSD Beta doesn’t seem to handle them very well. While traveling west on Calhoun St the vehicle drove over a train crossing without a care:

FSD Beta 10.10.2

Resulting in some unpleasant bumps, leading straight into an uneven historic brick road, which made for further unpleasant driving.

You can see that here.

The Model X then had to make a right turn from Calhoun St to heading north on Wheeler Street. The turn was taken comfortably, you can see that here.

A couple intersections up the Model X then had to turn left on to Tever Street, I had to apply the accelerator to get it to cross quickly as there was a car coming, as indicated in the diagram below. The red arrow indicates the Model X’s direction of travel, and the yellow line is when I applied the accelerator, while the orange line was the rough position of the oncoming vehicle.

You can see here: here.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

While traveling west on Tever Street the Model X encountered a bump that was missed by FSD Beta and myself, resulting in some unpleasant driving.

You can see that here.

Prior to the turn onto Franklin St I almost hit a squirrel, causing me to disengage FSD Beta, you can see that here.

The vehicle then turned north on to Franklin Street making a wider than desired turn.

The next turn the vehicle had to navigate was a right turn from Franklin St to Dixie St. Unfortunately, while passing Woodrow Wilson elementary school the vehicle encountered issues. The area next to the school, where I assume parents pick their kids up, was a big dirt patch. The vehicle assumed this was a turn lane and quickly got into it to take the turn ahead, as indicated in the diagram below, the red arrow is the expected path of the vehicle, while the yellow line is what it tried to do.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

I was required to take control and manually make the turn, you can see that here.

While traveling east on Dixie St the vehicle had no lane markings in the middle of the road, causing it to drive in the middle of the road. Once lane markings were seen prior to the right turn required to get back on to Wheeler the car got back into its lane and made the turn with no issues, you can see that here.

While traveling south on Wheeler St the vehicle had to make a left turn, heading east on Calhoun St, the turn was made with no issues, however, again, the uneven historic road made the ride unpleasant, you can see that here.

The vehicle then had to make a right turn from Calhoun St to heading south on Gordon Street. The turn itself was unremarkable, however I did have concerns regarding poor visibility at the intersection as the corners were busy with obstructions. You can see that here.

The vehicle then had to make a left turn from Gordon St to Baker St. The intersection in question is the fork where the two one-way two-lane roads we crossed separately merge, or split apart, depending on your direction of travel. The vehicle took the intersection without issues, while waiting for traffic to pass.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

You can see that play out here: here.

The vehicle then had to merge into the right lane and make a right turn from eastbound Baker St to south bound on Maryland Avenue. Shortly after the turn the vehicle is required to pass over another railway crossing, which it zoomed over at a high rate of speed, causing an uncomfortable right. You can see that play out here: here.

I'm uncertain if it was something I did, however, the car kept the right turn signal on the entire distance on Maryland Avenue until I got to Renfroe St. The vehicle made the right turn wide, and when I noticed the turn signal wasn’t disengaging, I turned it off manually. You can see the turn in question here: here.

Driving down Renfroe St provided some interesting navigational obstacles, which the vehicle handled well. Several vehicles were parked in various manners along the road, some with pedestrians at the side of car talking to the occupants inside. The Model X navigated the gauntlet with ease, the image below indicates the vehicle’s direction of travel with the orange lines being the position of the vehicles in question:

FSD Beta 10.10.2

You can see the gauntlet here: here.

However, there was one point where it came really close to letting the side view mirrors hit the mailboxes on the side of the road. As shown in the image below:

FSD Beta 10.10.2

And watch it below:

Impact was likely missed by a matter of centimeters. The mirrors did not fold in, which I suspect was due to the ultrasonic sensors at the base of the vehicle sensing more distance than at the top of the vehicle, where the impact would’ve occurred. This is actually a common complaint of mine regarding FSD, and autopilot, behavior. If the obstacle is above the wheel base, it puts the vehicle at risk, such as a pick pickup truck with mirrors that stick out far.

The vehicle then had to make a right turn from Renfroe St to heading north on Warnell Street. The turn itself has some obstructions on the right, however, the vehicle was able to make the turn with no issues. You can see that here.

While heading north on Warnell Street the vehicle again encountered uneven historic brick roads, and another railroad crossing that, this time, I applied the brakes for as I was getting tired of flying over them. You can see that here.

Once past the railroad tracks the vehicle had to cross Reynolds Street and turn left, heading west on Baker St. Again, while crossing the two-lane one-way road the car pulled out about half-way into the road before continuing on, the yellow line in the diagram indicating how far the vehicle got before getting going again.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

Once at the turn for Baker Street the car scooted forward, but a car turning left cut it pretty close to my bumper. It’s my perception that FSD Beta has some issues mathing out how to handle turns on one-way roads. You can see that all play out here.

Interestingly enough, the car gets into the right most lane immediately, versus getting into the left most lane. So I think there’s some tuning which needs to occur in handling one way roads.

Further along Baker St I had to make a left turn onto Woodrow Wilson Street. The car took this turn just fine, you can see it here: here.

Next up is actually an interesting one. Plant City is also home to the Strawberry Festival, which is two weeks in March where tourists flock to the town for fresh strawberries and make traffic unbearable for locals. Part of setting up the Strawberry festival though is closing roads and redirecting traffic a bit to try and make traffic bearable for people. On a normal day you can drive down the roads of the fairgrounds, however, as the fairgrounds ramp up for the festival, they start closing off roads. This occurred during this drive. In the diagram below I have boxed the fairground in a green boundary, and indicated, in red, what the desired path was. The orange line denotes a barrier which closes the road needing to be traveled. FSD Beta moved into the middle of the intersection before deciding it had to go left, which it did. The turn itself was handled badly, and ultimately there was a disengagement, however, that was more my fault than the car as it was wiggling the wheel around a lot and I rubbed it too hard and took control.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

After making the left the car replotted the trip and turned right, the left to get back on course. When trying to make the left turn from Lemon Street to Reynolds Street, however, a vehicle obstructing the view from the left caused me to have to disengage because a car was coming that couldn’t be seen, similar to what’s in this image here. You can see the entire sequence play out here: here.

When traveling east on Reynold St we came across a merge where Baker St merges with Reynolds St to become Baker St. The vehicle was unable to proceed on the stop sign, despite having sufficient time. As indicated in the diagram below, it choked at the yellow line, requiring me to hit the go pedal and get us moving again.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

You can also see that play out here: here.

The vehicle then proceeded east on Reynolds St until it had to make a southbound turn onto Wheeler St, the light was red, and it took a bit for the vehicle to confirm the way was clear, then it proceeded. The vehicle, however, hung a bit to the right over the lane markings, as shown in the diagram below, with the red line intending to be the path, and the yellow line being what it did:

FSD Beta 10.10.2

You can watch it here: here.

The vehicle then proceeded south on Wheeler St until it got to Alabama St. As indicated in the diagram below the vehicle was expected to make a left turn onto Alabama, then an immediate right turn onto Evers St. Unfortunately, this distance proved to be too difficult for the Tesla to handle and it choked where indicated by the yellow X at the end of the yellow line.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

You can watch that here.

Once heading south on Evers St the vehicle had to make a left onto Merrick St. The left turn itself was handled properly, though it was nerve wracking because it came closer to hitting the wall at the intersection Which resulted in my accidentally disengaging FSD Beta by holding onto the wheel too tightly. You can watch that here.

The vehicle then made an unremarkable right turn to south on Collins St, you can see that here., and then another further up the road when turning from James L Redman Parkway to Maki Rd, which you can also see here: here.

While on Maki Rd the vehicle had to make a 90 degree turn. The vehicle turned the left turn signal on, despite that being unnecessary.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

In reviewing the image above I can understand why the logic might move forward with that, however, the oncoming lane is more of a driveway, and if you weren’t turning you’d still have the right of way. To me signaling to go left here is unnecessary. You can see that here.

The next intersection required the vehicle to turn left on to Alexander St. The vehicle did not handle the intersection with grace. In the diagram below we can see how far back the stop sign is from the actual intersection. The vehicle stopped at the stop line, indicated in black, and began to signal right. A normal driver would have scooted forward to close the gap, however, the Model X remained at the stop line until traffic from the left cleared up and it could move forward. Once it could move forward it crawled forward, eventually getting me honked at, and getting me to hit the accelerator pedal to get moving faster. On doing this the vehicle was meant to follow the red line, however, it followed the yellow one instead, requiring me to intervene and get it back on the road again.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

You can see that all here: here.

While traveling on Alexander St a car pulled out from an adjacent road on the left, the Model X began to slow down as there was a perception that it was going to cut into my lane of travel. You can see that here. No real traffic behind me, I let the scenario play out.

The next remarkable intersection was when traveling north on Alexander St and making a left turn to head west on Baker St. The end goal is that once on Baker street the car would be making a right turn from Baker St to Thonotosassa Rd. Baker Steet’s right lane at this point is a dedicated lane that must turn right and go into another dedicated lane. The optimum maneuver here is for the vehicle to remain in the right most left turn lane when turning left. Unfortunately, as the diagram below shows, the vehicle went into the left most turn lane to turn left, as indicated by the yellow arrow, when it should have tried to stay in the right lane that turns left, as indicated by the red arrow.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

This resulted in the vehicle needing to make a right lane change to get into the right lane. In this case the lead vehicle in the right lane floored it out of there, and my vehicle accelerated into the pocket they created. You can see that here.

At the intersection of Baker St and Thonotosassa Rd I then stayed in the right lane to go right, however, as the diagram below shows the vehicle choked when it got halfway through the turn at the point with the yellow line. The light was red and I suspect it was waiting for an oncoming vehicle to clear, however, the lane is a dedicated lane, so no stopping should be necessary here.

You can see that here.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

While traveling north on Thonotosassa the Model X appeared to misjudge the light timing, requiring me to hit the accelerator to “make the light” versus braking hard, you can see that here.

Traveling north on Thonotosassa Rd I made a questionable U-turn to return back down south on Thonotosassa Rd until I had to make a right turn onto Woodrow Wilson St, the turn was a less than 90 degrees, and the vehicle took it like a champ.

You can see that here.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

While traveling south on Woodrow Wilson St the vehicle then had to cross Baker St, as indicated in the diagram below this was not successful, it choked at the yellow line, requiring me to complete the maneuver myself.

You can watch that here.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

Continuing south on Woodrow Wilson St meant another interaction with the closed road for the Strawberry Festival grounds. This time the vehicle was able to make the unplanned route correction as desired. Turning left on to Oak Avenue, right onto Lemon St, then right onto Reynolds St before turning left onto Woodrow Wilson St again, as shown in the diagram below:

FSD Beta 10.10.2

You can see the above play out again here: here.

The left back onto Woodrow Wilson Dr was a little hairy because the left lane was closed, the vehicle was able to make the turn, though it did so poorly. You can see that here.

Traveling south on Woodrow Wilson St the road turns into Sydney Rd, which then passes a number of distribution centers, where the vehicle does appear to intermittent apply the brakes for no expected reason. Nothing super significant, but enough to be noticeable. You can see an example here: here. and here: here.

After continuing on Sydney Rd the vehicle then came to Turkey Creek road and had to make a left to turn south on Turkey Creek Dr. As shown in the diagram below it’s a pretty simple turn. This light, however, is a fairly short light and the vehicle was not able to figure out how to turn left in time. When the 2nd cycle of the light came around I hit the gas pedal and scurried it across.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

You can see that play out here: here.

After continuing down Turkey Creek Rd the vehicle then made a left to go east onto Trapnell Rd . It was remarkable only that I hit the accelerator to go because the car couldn’t see the vehicle ahead of me had a turn signal on, which meant it was going to wait for the car ahead to turn before committing to anything, as seen here: here.

Continuing on down Trapnell Rd the vehicle had to make a left onto Timberlane Dr. The Model X made the turn perfectly, even stopping for an oncoming vehicle, you can see that here.

While traveling north on Timberlane Rd the vehicle did hard braking at the spot shown by the yellow line below:

FSD Beta 10.10.2

I suspect it was related to a vehicle that was leaving the community, and the car got confused. You can see yourself here: here.

Continuing north on Timberlane Dr the vehicle had to make a left onto Griffin Boulevard. As shown in the diagram below there was a car already trying to make the left, though further up than me, indicated by the first orange arrow, and a vehicle approaching, indicated by the second orange arrow. The Model X was following the red line, and I applied the brakes at the yellow line.

You can see that here.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

Traveling west on Griffin Boulevard the vehicle then had to make a right onto Barrett Avenue. This turn, while successful, was concerning. As indicated in the diagram below a golf cart was approaching the intersection I had to turn at, indicated by the orange line. The golf cart had a stop sign, however, it was a little nerve wracking because I wasn’t sure what level of analyzing the Tesla was doing on the Golf cart. I did allow the vehicle to cross in front of the golf cart once I saw the stop sign, and no issues occurred.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

You can see that play out here: here.

While driving along Barrett Avenue the vehicle would recognize the various stone mailboxes on either side of the road as garbage cans and would periodically jerk the wheel left/right away from the “cans” as needed, in some cases quite badly. There were no disengagements, however, it was quite unpleasant. You can see examples of it here: here. and here: here. and another here: here.

Once to the end of Barrett Avenue the vehicle makes an unremarkable right turn onto Clubhouse Dr, which you can see here: here., then looped back around to make another unremarkable right turn to head south on Timberlane Dr. You can see that here.

While heading south on Timberlane Dr the vehicle had to make a left turn onto Griffin Boulevard again, however, as indicated in the diagram below the vehicle failed to judge the distance of an oncoming vehicle requiring me to apply the brakes and stop at the yellow line.

You can watch that here.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

Continuing on Griffin Boulevard the vehicle then made an unremarkable right turn onto Mud Lake Rd, you can watch it here: here. When coming to the intersection of Mud Lake Rd and Trapnell Rd the vehicle had to make an unremarkable left turn to go east on Trapnell Rd, you can see it here: here.

While continuing east on Trapnell Rd the vehicle had to make a left turn onto James L Redman parkway. This left turn was remarkable in that the two vehicles ahead of me did sloppy jobs at getting through, while FSD Beta handled it properly.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

You can see that here.

The final leg of the trip was going north on James L Redman Parkway where it had to make a right turn to go east on Alexander St. Since FSD Beta 10.2 the vehicle has not been able to do this reliable. As indicated in the diagram below the vehicle will approach Alexander St but try to turn right too early, following the yellow arrow instead of the red one, which is the desired path. There was one instance in v10.9 where it DID navigate properly, after a wobble, but never again after that.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

You can watch that here.

After making the right turn onto Alexander St the vehicle was then expected to make a left turn into a local set of businesses. As shown in the diagram below the vehicle failed to do it with sufficient time. The vehicle should follow the red arrow, but instead follows the yellow one, ultimately missing the turn and trying for a U-turn up the road.

FSD Beta 10.10.2

And you can see that here.

Rivian to Add Google Cast and Native YouTube App, Will Tesla Respond?

By Not a Tesla App Staff

Coming to Rivian vehicles over a software update is Google Cast and YouTube support, which will allow for seamless, high-quality content streaming to Rivian vehicles.

This is a big step forward for Rivian’s software integration, especially compared to Tesla, which has yet to integrate native apps or release the long-rumored Tesla native app store.

Google Cast

Google Cast is Google’s version of Apple AirPlay which is supported in a variety of audio and video streaming apps such as Netflix, Disney+, YouTube, and more. By using a supported app, a user will be able to cast content directly to Rivian’s main 15.6” center screen.

Like Casting to a TV or Smart Device at home, this will allow you to play, pause, or skip back and forth using the vehicle’s touchscreen. Google Casting automatically pauses when the vehicle shifts into Drive.

Native YouTube App

Alongside Google Cast, Rivian is also bringing a native YouTube app to vehicles, enabling users to access YouTube’s video and music library from anywhere with a data connection. These features will be integrated right into Rivian’s vehicle operating system, which means they will receive regular software updates, and not be reliant on browser-based capabilities.

Similar to casting content, YouTube content will also automatically pause when the vehicle is shifted into Drive.

Tesla Equivalents

For the time being, there is no way to AirPlay or Cast video from a phone or tablet to Tesla’s front or rear screens. However, for some apps such as YouTube, you can send the video URL to the vehicle and have it open the YouTube app to that video.

To do this, open the YouTube app and find a video. Once you’d like to share it with the vehicle you can tap on share. You’ll then need to share it with the Tesla app which will then send it to your vehicle. On iPhones this requires you to scroll to the right and tap on More, which brings up the native sharing screen and has the Tesla app.

However, this is far more limited than including AirPlay or Google Cast support which will work for practically and video, even personal videos in your photo library.

Elon Musk mentioned back in 2016 that Tesla would add mirroring of phone apps to the center screen, but that has yet to materialize. More recently Musk mentioned a native X App coming to Tesla vehicles.

Tesla Theater

Tesla Theater allows users to stream videos from various platforms, including YouTube, but these are web-based applications, with no native applications available. This leaves some marked limitations on usability.

Tesla most recently announced in their 2024.14 update that the browser will be able to be expanded to full-screen mode when parked, enabling more access to streaming services on the web. Meanwhile, Google Cast and Apple Airplay continue to remain highly requested features.

Tesla FSD V12.4 - Features and Release Date

By Not a Tesla App Staff

The greatly anticipated FSD v12.4 is around the corner, with Elon Musk mentioning that it will be going to employees this weekend, with limited external testers next week.

Several significant improvements are coming with V12.4, which is being compared to the leap in performance that was previously seen between V12 and V11.

Improved Comfort and Reduced Interventions

There are quite a few improvements expected with V12.4, which Musk has said will be focused on user comfort by reducing hard accelerations and sudden braking. According to Musk, FSD v12.4 is also expected to have a 5-10x improvement in time between user interventions, which means that Tesla is rapidly approaching its goal for the Robotaxi announcement on August 8, 2024.

Steering Wheel Nag Removal

FSD V12.4 is expected to eliminate the steering wheel nag, as Musk confirmed its removal last week. The camera-based driver monitoring system will be taking over, providing a hands-free experience. These improvements will most likely benefit owners who have cabin cameras with infrared lights the most, while Tesla may continue to use steering wheel nag as a fallback mechanism.

Driverless Autopark

The second key feature that may be included in v12.4 will be Banish Autopark, previously known as Reverse Summon, allowing you to choose a parking spot, exit the vehicle and have the car park itself. Whether this feature makes it in v12.4 is yet to be seen, but Musk has mentioned that parking without a driver is coming soon.

Automatically Seek Parking Spot at Destination

Finally, your Tesla will now traverse a parking lot and automatically enter Autopark mode when arriving at a destination, according to a post from Musk.

Eligibility and Branch

Tesla recently added FSD v12.3.6 to the 2024.14 branch with updates 2024.14.5 and 2024.14.6. This makes it very likely that Tesla’s next FSD version will also be based on 2024.14, meaning that it will be available to any vehicle on 2024.14.x.

For users on update 2024.3.25, this means that they’ll receive all of the features included in updates 2024.8 and 2024.14, which should make it a massive update.

Release Date

Musk has mentioned that FSD V12.4 is going out to employee vehicles for internal testing this weekend, with external testing starting next week. The rollouts typically go slower than predicted but looks like we may see this begin shipping to customers by the end of the month.

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