When does Autopark and Summon show up in Germany

EdinEPTX

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i am a little confused, Summon with all derivates was working with sensors correct. Now after Tesla changed it to optical view it was told it is not allowed due to country based legislation. I was told recently BMW can do in the new i5 series a similar technology... Why is it allowed for BMW and Tesla got restrictions? This cause some questioning to me...
The EU is scared that a US based company will leapfrog the legacy auto makers over there.
 

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i am a little confused, Summon with all derivates was working with sensors correct. Now after Tesla changed it to optical view it was told it is not allowed due to country based legislation. I was told recently BMW can do in the new i5 series a similar technology... Why is it allowed for BMW and Tesla got restrictions? This cause some questioning to me...
Probably because BMW uses a hybrid solution, USSs + Vision. USSs are more reliable than vision, full stop. They detect what vision just cannot.
 

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2024.20.6 releases Autopark out side of America, can anyone confirm whether it works in the UK on EAP Non USS car
Seems like you're getting it this time! It's marked as available to Italy also for non-USS vehicles, although I updated just today to 20.3 and don't have EAP/FSD to fully confirm. I might be thinking of adding FSD if I start to see some actual benefit picking up, however I don't see EAP worth the price, with or without autopark, unless I see a hint of FSD within a year.
 
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I was surprised seeing this in the release notes, as it was already working (at least sometimes) for me. Update installed, i will test it tomorrow. Lets see what its capable of now, i guess its the Updated version of Autopark.
 
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I was surprised seeing this in the release notes, as it was already working (at least sometimes) for me. Update installed, i will test it tomorrow. Lets see what its capable of now, i guess its the Updated version of Autopark.
If it was already working, you might be in for a disappointment. It should be just an extension to 3rd world countries on the Tesla geopolitical map.
 

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If it was already working, you might be in for a disappointment. It should be just an extension to 3rd world countries on the Tesla geopolitical map.
Got to test it two times before work. It now shows the new visualization of Autopark and i can choose a parking spot on the screen now. The first time i was not sure it got better, the second time worked like a charm. It behaves differently than before, thats for sure. Still not perfect on the parking lot of my workplace, but i will test other parking lots after work. So far it looks promising.
 

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Summon doesn't work in EU due to legislation.
In EU it is mandatory to have a person behind the wheels, while Summon is "driving without a driver". So that is why it is forbidden.
 

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To my knowledge in the uk it was active to USS vehicles Someone correct me if I am
Wrong
 

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To my knowledge in the uk it was active to USS vehicles Someone correct me if I am
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To my knowledge it has never been active in the EU. Only autopark, until it wasn't.

That's why I've never purchased EAP/FSD, the only benefit being getting rid of obnoxious autopilot beeps (which on autopilot on are unnecessary at best) for lane-changing.
 

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Summon doesn't work in EU due to legislation.
In EU it is mandatory to have a person behind the wheels, while Summon is "driving without a driver". So that is why it is forbidden.
Thats not quite true. I do have it working on my M3, it just has some limitations in the EU. Summon can only drive if a FOB Key or Phone with Bluetooth is in the range of 6 meters to the vehicle and you need to press a button continuously to get it working. Also, it can drive a maximum distance of 20 meters i think, before you need to manually get in the vehicle and drive it a bit to use summon again. I think its currently limited to USS Vehicles.
 
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