Discuss: Tesla FSD v14.3 Now Pulls Over When You're Distracted [VIDEO]

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This is dumb-warn the driver to pay attention with a chime/buzzer and the automatic disengage. You are on a long stretch of hwy-no safe spot to pull over but when there is one eventually Fsd will pull over 10-15 minutes later ?
 

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I got to say, I don’t agree with the changes to the strike system. In a future where Tesla may be held liable for what unsupervised FSD does, being more relaxed about the strike system might actually hurt them more than help them.
 

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I got to say, I don’t agree with the changes to the strike system. In a future where Tesla may be held liable for what unsupervised FSD does, being more relaxed about the strike system might actually hurt them more than help them.
YOU dont punish a child sometime after they acted inappropriatly, FSD warning and then a countdown....boom disengaged.
 

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This is dumb-warn the driver to pay attention with a chime/buzzer and the automatic disengage. You are on a long stretch of hwy-no safe spot to pull over but when there is one eventually Fsd will pull over 10-15 minutes later ?
um, so not this. what if the driver becomes incapacitated? right now, the car cannot distinguish inattentiveness from being incapable of steering, so simply disengaging could cause major accidents.
 
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i think this is much better than the previous system, which would just stop in the middle of the road. pulling over is much safer.
I agree with that aspect. It should always pull over whenever it's safe to do so. I just don't think getting a strike should be such a lenient penalty that you can sidestep so easily. If history has taught us anything, it is that people will always take advantage and ruin a good thing for those who follow the rules.
 
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If history has taught us anything, it is that people will always take advantage and ruin a good thing for those who follow the rules.
i wholeheartedly agree, and unfortunately, it is true. there are people that will always do the wrong thing.
I just don't think getting a strike should be such a lenient penalty that you can sidestep so easily.
i’m not sure what was wrong with the old strike system? this is self-driving technology; the rules need to be firm.
 
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i’m not sure what was wrong with the old strike system? this is self-driving technology; the rules need to be firm.
It's not so much that there is something "wrong" with the old system or the new one, and instead it's more that I feel (personal opinion) that it is too lenient. The old system (if you didn't react to the attention warning) would just stop in the middle of the road and disengage FSD for the rest of the drive. However, people would just get around it by quickly pulling over, putting it in park, and then re-engaging FSD. Now it doesn't even require you to pull over and park; you can just re-engage it immediately after receiving a strike.

This, in my eyes, almost encourages people to be careless and not pay attention to the warning because they will see it as "I can get 3 strikes before I can't use it for a week" and abuse that to mean they need to pay less attention. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but I remember too clearly the times that people would be caught sleeping in their cars or all the people that like to blame FSD for doing things that weren't its fault simply because they don't want to take accountability.
 
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It's not so much that there is something "wrong" with the old system or the new one, and instead it's more that I feel (personal opinion) that it is too lenient. The old system (if you didn't react to the attention warning) would just stop in the middle of the road and disengage FSD for the rest of the drive. However, people would just get around it by quickly pulling over, putting it in park, and then re-engaging FSD. Now it doesn't even require you to pull over and park; you can just re-engage it immediately after receiving a strike.

This, in my eyes, almost encourages people to be careless and not pay attention to the warning because they will see it as "I can get 3 strikes before I can't use it for a week" and abuse that to mean they need to pay less attention. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic, but I remember too clearly the times that people would be caught sleeping in their cars or all the people that like to blame FSD for doing things that weren't its fault simply because they don't want to take accountability.
i agree. and i don’t think you are being pessimistic. Tesla is being this way (IMO) because as of now they are not responsible for any accidents that happen on FSD, but UFSD is not ready, and people are getting antsy, so they are relaxing the rules for a system that is imperfect to please people or because they feel it will make people believe UFSD is getting closer and closer.
 
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